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Re: Moon may have water (Sept. 23): Water vapour on the moon might be possible but water as such - no way.
With a full vacuum even at frozen temperature water could not exist in the liquid form
Possible existence of hydroxides?? It would be interesting to figure out how an object at high temperature on one side and freezing on the other could sustain any atmosphere.
Re: Moon may have water (Sept. 23): In response to these researches and speculations I may say with subtle happiness and pride for India that Indian Space Research Organisation, though India has gone to moon much later than the developed ones, has already declared the presence of Water on Moon on the basis of findings by Chandrayana.
Re: Lower IQ’s measured in spanked children (Sept. 24): Your article on the corelationship
Re: Exotic life forms: looking for life as we don’t know it (Sept. 23): As the article points out, we should consider the possibility of life at much lower temperatures, but the Arrhenius equation suggests that they may also evolve much more slowly. Their sense of time may be completely different from ours, and we might find ourselves completely unable to communicate with them-- at least if we do not realize this. In fact, I could even generalize: couldn’t we “talk” to plants, once we realize that we need a lot of patience? And what would we communicate?
Joop Gerritse
Kalkar-Wissel
Germany
Re: Lower IQ’s measured in spanked children (Sept. 24): How can you even consider this article to be anything other than TOTAL BS? Did they actually have subjects that they measured before and after spankings? I bet not, yet they claim that spanking creates a lower IQ 4 years later. You cannot compare apples and oranges and claim they are the same. Well you can, but is not Science. This group has an agenda, and normally that should prompt a review of their study claims. Why did you not apply your normal high standards >to this article?
Lonnie Nunweiler
Siam Embedded Software Co., Ltd.
Pattaya, Thailand
Re: Lower IQ’s measured in spanked children (Sept. 24): I think the article is of little scientific significants. Many of the very high IQ scientists of our modern era were spanked as children. My children who were spanked as children have above average test scores, far above the scores of the undisciplined hoards found through western society. My father-in-law was spanked as a child and his IQ is in the 150-160 range, I was spanked many times for willfullness and my IQ score is in the 130 range. It think that based on the culture over the last 3-4 centuries that the majority of the founders of modern scientific fields were spanked as well. Spanking used wisely and correctly leads to self control, because consequences are distasteful. Just as a child who touches a hot stove learns not to touch it. In the 1800’s when children were usually spanked, their educational equivalent at 8th grade is beyond most college students of today. Some of which was related to the educational system, but the children were ready to learn because they had discipline unlike many school children of modern America.
Re: Building block of life reported found in comet (Aug. 18): The article related to the emergence of life sounds rather strange.
There must be yet unknown physical forces
The book challenges the current scientific paradigm and therefore is being ignored by the scientific community.
Re: Pre-”Lucy” fossils reveal secrets (Oct. 1): Why has the Pope
Matt - Ft Myers, Fl.
Re: Study: torture produces unreliable information (Sept. 21): It’s good to see additional confirmation of what many, many people have been saying for years... and have known for centuries. The SERE program interrogaton techniques (Mitchell & Jessen) were drawn from Korean War POW descriptions of torture techniques (use by the north Koreans) expressly designed to elicit false confessions... no doubt for demoralizing and propaganda purposes. However, a great deal of money could have been saved by simply reviewing the historical records of the “Holy” Inquisition from the 16th
As is often the case, there is nothing new under the Sun, including the knowledge of, and use for, torture.
Re: Lower IQ’s measured in spanked children (Sept. 24): The horizontal axis of the graph is labeled “number of times spanked.” Is this the number of times per day, per month, ever? Is it also possible that intelligence is to some extent heritable?
That is, smart parents beget smart kids and stupid parents beget stupid kids. Stupid parents also spank more, but could this fact be incidental to, rather than causal?
Re: Fungus-treated violin beats Strad in blind test (Sept. 15): Let me begin by saying I was not at the trial and did not hear the violins in question. That being said I would offer the following as points to think about concerning this story. Stories about the “secrets” of the Stardivari sound and the many possibilities of how he achieved what he did have been around since the time he was alive. To imply the working life of an artist like Stradivari can be explained or surpassed by one element such as wood choice or preparation is a gross oversimplification. It does however get great press as these stories always do.
Great violins were made in Cremona a hundred years before Strad was born and he continued the tradition at a high level. His understanding of design, materials and construction along with hard work over a long period of time enabled him to reach great heights in his instruments.
His fame was the result of more than 6 decades at the bench as a prolific maker who innovated along the way. Simply put he was a consumate artist. To imply his success can be approached by growing fungus in the wood is both non scientific and shows a great lack of knowledge of history.
Playing violins behind a screen doesn’t necessarily prove what you think it does. Attendees at a forestry conference are not qualified to make that judgement. How many of them know what a Strad sounds like? I don’t doubt that they liked the instruments but it is often the case that in theses circumstances new violins do surprisingly well often beating out” Strads”. On this point I take it that the “Strad in question is real. But here again what kind of condition is it in. Many of these violins are past their prime and when played against a new instrument the uninitiated believe the new instruments sound better. I have witnessed this in person a number of times. I would like to know who the experts were and how they voted. This is not mentioned in the story. I have been with groups of violinmakers with many years of experience between them who have done just this exact kind of test and have been in favor of the new violins. In fact the real truth in this story may just be one more instance of the emperors new clothes effect. We bow down to mythology but in fact well made new instruments often sound as well or “better” regardless of whether they were treated fungus or not. I could go on and on but my point is this.
I believe I speak for many of my colleagues when I say many of us have worked hard for many years to truly understand our craft and to produce instruments that are of the highest quality. One of the greatest challenges has been dispelling disinformation of the kind that this story promotes. As this story propagates throughout the web I will get the inevitable calls asking “did u hear that they discovered what makes Strad violins so great” It saddens me and many others who have passionately pursued the truth for so long to once again have to explain that there’s a bit more to it.
Jonathan Cooper ~ Violinmaker
1 Forest Ave, Portland , ME 04038
207 671 6029
www.jcooperviolinmaker.com
www. acousticartisans.com
jcooper@maine.rr.com
Re: Showerheads may spray germs at you (Sept. 14): This seems an ideal for phage treatment. (link)
Re: Showerheads may spray germs at you (Sept. 14): I am wondering if this is bacteria is present in showerheads of those of us who have well water, and if so, to what extent? Fascinating article!
Re: Showerheads may spray germs at you (Sept. 14): A question about the shower head germs article. . .
“If you are getting a face full of water when you first turn your shower on, that means you are probably getting a particularly high load of Mycobacterium avium,” said Pace.
Would it help to turn the shower on, and let it run for a bit before stepping into the stream of water?
Re: Tiny “T. rex” found (Sept. 17): In humans, and most higher animals, the young are double-jointed.
During childhood, the young experiment with different body-postures. For example, western children sit on chairs whilst oriental children sit on the ground if it is warm. To keep the legs from getting in the way, oriental children knot their legs together - the “Lotus Position”.
At puberty, the sex hormones trigger the “closure of the epiphyses”. That is to say, instead of having a “ball-and socket-joint” that has one ball and two sockets, the adult has one ball and one socket. The other socket has cemented itself to the bone ball, and the gap between socket and ball has closed. The band of bone created is known as the “epiphysis” (Greek - “excrescent growth”).
Growth of the entire body now stops. The “set” of the joints, such as the knee-joint, has been optimised for the final, adult body-size. This is on the basis of habitual body-posture. The adult westerner finds the “Lotus Position” uncomfortable. The Oriental adult (from a warm part of the Orient) has no problem with this.
If at the time of Tyrannosaurus Rex, this optimisation system had not yet evolved, there would be NO NEED for a saurier to stop growing at puberty.
We have no living Tyrannosaurs. We do not know the growth-behaviour of the saurians. An examination of the epiphyses of the specimen would be needed in order to confirm that the “tiny Tyrannosaurus” had really stopped growing.
Re: Negative public opinion seen as warning signal for terrorism (Sept. 17): I disagree in part from the analysis presented. Nations harboring terrorists do seem to focus on other nations that have liberties counter to Sharia Law. However, the comment about Obama’s presidency is fallacious. Terrorist organizations regard this as weaknesses, encouraging attacks. These attacks may take the form of violence but may also be more covert, where the radical Islamists work relentlessly from within to take control over the target nation. This is already happening in many European nations and the citizens and their governments fail to recognize this new form of terrorism and may not until it is too late. Appeasement did not work against the Nazi regime and it will fail again.
Dr. Charles F. Barth
Re: Bird can “read” human gaze (April 2): I have been a parrot owner for over 20 years and I can confirm the findings of the study mentioned in the article. Parrots are very visually orientated and in that respect, not having arms and hands with fingers to point with, they point with their gaze instead. When asked “what do you want?” or “where do you want to go?” they will use their gaze to direct me to whatever they want or want to go to. he also have a fair grasp and understanding of the English language, (probably a lot more than I think they do). When I ask them rudimentary questions within their conceptual sphere that have a ‘yes’ or ‘no’ answer with one shake of the head for ‘yes’ and two shakes for ‘no’ (except for the times they get excited or enthusiastic then it’s three or four shakes meaning ‘Yes! Yes! Yes!’). Over all, I believe we ‘Humans’ are a bit too conceded about our ‘superior mental powers’ and don’t give animals half the credit for the intelligence that they do have.
Re: Scientists: artificial steps against global warming may be dan (Sept. 2): To this armchair scientist, it would seem to be the height of folly to intitiate solar energy control whilst continuing to extract fossil fuels, particularly because it will gloss over the significance of that latter activity as being the root cause of rising carbon dioxide level. Removal of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere appears logical but should be linked with cessation of fossil fuel extraction. I have a theory which I have seen to be valid so many times: that you can initiate any change you wish and change will occur, but not the change you wanted.
J. Bernard Sunderland
Keighley
West Yorkshire
England
Re: Scientists: artificial steps against global warming may be dan (Sept. 2): The jury is still out on the question of global warming.
After the Norman Conquest (1066, as everybody knows), the Normans grew grapes in Britain. Then, in 1213, the climate suddenly grew cold. The grape-vines rotted.
Only in about 1950 did the English start to grow grapes again, and in very small quantities.
What was going on?
My own theory is that there was a patch of dust in space. Either (1) the dust crossed the Solar System or (2) the Solar System crossed the dust. Either way of looking at it, it takes only a percent or less of reduction in the light-level to influence the weather profoundly.
The Vikings died out due to the cold. Alexander Nevski in Russia had to drive back Germans and Swedes who invaded Russia. Local “kings” set themselves up in Norman Britain in competition with the Normans. The Mongols came down from the hills and invaded China, Russia, Poland, the Middle-East (including Iraq) and Japan (where they were driven back).
These wars were the result of the need for land. When the land is not fruitful, one needs larger amounts of land.
It has never been as warm in Britain as it was prior to 1213. So the time to panic has not yet come.
Artificial steps, such as putting reflective material in the atmosphere to reflect the light, might produce the very disaster one is trying to avoid.
Furthermore, my late friend, the geologist and crystallographer Alan Coutanceau-Clark pointed out that if the poles melt, the rock beneath them will not be under so much pressure. So the polar rocks will rise and sea-levels will not alter. It is simple Archimedes.
There is a lot of incomplete science about, used to whip up hysteria. The wisest people are first gathering their facts before they decide.
Charles Douglas Wehner
http://wehner.org
Re: Cities work much like brains, study finds (Sept. 5): What if we organize future cities like brains?
What happens when the future cities have super-human AI so great that they are smarter in every way than their inhabitants?
Homo sapiens then becomes merely a food supply to city rending plants. Can robopsychiatrists cure these urban psycho robots, aka gastro sapiens, whose stomachs rule their superior brains?
Re: Building block of life reported found in comet (Aug. 18): you quoted Jamie Elsila of NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center as saying: “Our discovery supports the* theory* that some of life’s ingredients formed in space and were delivered to Earth long ago by meteorite and comet impacts.” But surely, this is not a “theory.” Is this not a poor choice of words? People will confuse this idea with the theory of evolution, which is an established fact. Should you not have placed a disclaimer on his use of “theory”?
Bruce Robinson
ReligiousTolerance.org
Re: Cities work much like brains, study finds (Sept. 5): In my opinion, city network is much more like transportation system (blood vessel) they develop as the body develop more complex n larger the cars is resembling the blood cells people, goods and many things inside the cars is the food molecule or any body builder molecule money and business that move along are resembling oxygen charities and consumptions that move along are resembling carbondioxide, bad if retained, and help environment to produce oxygen if expelled waste, garbage and dead bodies that move along are resembling the waste which will be discarded through excretion and egestion system
how about brain? hmm... maybe it’s the communication system try to check the evolution of communication structure (server growth)... brain are the centers of informations in cities telephone, emails, radio & television networks are the nerve system
we as the people are the cells...
Re: Cities work much like brains, study finds (Sept. 5): That would explain why there are so many dysfunctional cities. They were patterned after the wrong brain.
Re: Last great forest under threat, study finds (Aug. 26): No doubt, but what choice do we have? Flying over parts of Alberta, Canada, I’ve often thought, “in a few years there will be only one tree left and it will be in a museum and we’ll have to pay a dollar to see it.”
But if we quit logging, we’d have to stop eating too, and building houses. We do re-plant trees though.
Re: Something beyond visible universe detected? (Sept. 23): As far as I can understand, Unexpected motion in distant clusters of galaxies, being caused by a thing outside visible universe contradicts basic physics. Reason: We believe, there are objects outside the edge from where light has not got time to reach us since the big bang. So if visible universe edge is currently X light years away, so we see things there not more than X years old, and the invisible objects causing the motion on the clusters is X+Y light years away from us. The effect of any kind of information (Say gravity) to reach the edge will take at least Y years. So the effect of gravity or electromagnetic force or any other force will make the visible universe move after Y years. Then it will take X more years so that we can see, which means, we’ll see it after X+Y years minimum. But this contradicts to the original fact that we are seeing things at most X years old.
Please help throw some light on this if possible.
Re: “Dance restaurant” theory of water takes shape (Aug. 14): The biggest mystery about water is why it is not a GAS.
We can take hydrogen chloride - the active ingredient in hydrochloric acid. Chlorine has an anatomic weight of 35. 4527. Hydrogen has an atomic weight of 1. 00794. Add them together for HCl, and we have 36. 4606. It is a gas.
Now we take oxygen (atomic weight 15. 9994) Add the weight of hydrogen twice. One gets 18. 0152. It is less than half the weight of hydrochloric acid vapour - yet it is a liquid.
By comparison, the vapour density of air is 14. 4. So water should be a gas that is only slightly heavier.
The story I was given when I was studying is that it is the “hydrogen bond” (mentioned in the article) that binds several molecules together to raise its vapour density, and stop it being so volatile.
However, the argument is not entirely convincing.
One could say there is a great amount to be discovered in this field. It is an exciting, and if properly managed, potentiallly profitable field for research.
Re: Small “epidemic” may have killed Mozart (Aug. 17): Please have a look here. you will read the following text:
Mozart’s Death - Murder, Accident or Disease? Accident A couple of investigators have surprisingly broken from the norm of attributing Mozart’s death to murder and strange ailments by announcing that Mozart died from complications arising from accidents.
The first to push this story was French anthropologist Pierre-Francoise Puech, who claimed to have positively identified a skull at Salzburg’s Mozarteum to be that of Mozart. Puech drew attention to a fracture in the skull, claiming that it had been sustained from one of Mozart’s many falls in 1791, and that it had caused a chronic bruising that had eventually put Mozart in a coma and killed him. The skull was supposed to have been rescued by a gravedigger named Joseph Rothmayer during the reorganisation of the composer’s grave, who later gave it to the Salzburg Mozarteum. Three years later, the American physician Niles E. Drake concurred with Puech’s theory in an article that was published in the journal BioScience. This theory would indeed help explain why Mozart was depressed and dizzy not long before his death.
The obvious problem with this theory is that there is still no consensus as to whether the skull actually belonged to Mozart. Rothmayer had allegedly wrapped wire around the neck of Mozart’s corpse before burying it, and had retrieved the skull ten years later when it was exhumed. Research had concluded that the skull belonged to a 20-40 year old South German male who suffered a developmental abnormality called premature synopsis of the metopic suture (PSMS). This abnormality is characterised by the bone of the forehead developing in two halves, and the failure of the metopic suture to close after birth, resulting in a broad midface and a small, abnormally-shaped skull. As Mozart’s portraits depicted a straight, vertical forehead, bulbous nose, prominent cheekbones and upper lip, and prominent brow arches, it was supposed that the skull did indeed belong to him. Further research involving the superimposition of a photograph of the cranium of the skull on portraits of Mozart painted between 1778 and 1788 indicated conformity with all side proportions of the head.
However, Nova Scotian neurologist Professor TJ Murray, who founded the Dalhousie Society for the History of Medicine, denied that the skull was that of Mozart as seen in portraits. Walter Brauneis, archivist of the Office for the Preservation of Historical Monuments in Austria, undertook to carry out his own research by locating official medical records concerning Mozart’s death. Surprisingly he found a doctor’s description of the body, which noted that Mozart (the dentist’s worst nightmare!) had only seven teeth remaining in his mouth (the rest having rotted or fallen out!) When the Mozarteum skull was re-examined, it was found to have four more teeth than had been recorded by the doctor. Puech supporters countered that the doctor probably counted only the healthy teeth.
The only way to be sure just whose skull it is would be to perform DNA analysis on the skull; unfortunately, all of Mozart’s children died childless, and it would be unwise to disturb his parents’ grave.
My comment is that one must first read the above comments, and go on google at Puech, P. F. , Mozart.
Re: “Dance restaurant” theory of water takes shape (Aug. 14): The current article “Dance Restaurant Theory of Water takes shape” caught my eye particularly the ending where it says, “If we don’t understand this basic life material, how can we study the more complex life materials like proteins that are immersed in water?” asked postdoctoral researcher Congcong Huang” I wonder what Nature magazine would make of that in the light of the way they “rubbished” the work of a Scientist in recent years who tried to prove that Water could be shown to have a “memory”? Didn’t they render his work invalid because they thought he must be committing fraud and cooking the figures? I think this was one of those things where someone trying to prove that Homeopathy was not hocus pocus, was regarded the way they all are, “insane”. If the physics and physical properties of water have still not been fully worked out, then how can any body of so called Scientifically minded people have the right to say that water hasn’t got a memory?
Surely in this kind of area someone should be innocent until proven guilty?
Laurie Prior (UK)
Re: “Dream therapy” set for a comeback? (July 28): The idea that the world of psychotic patients is more dreamlike than of sane people is rather obvious. The wish to use this to help these unfortunate people is as laudatory as any wish to help sufferers. Yet to be able to help one needs to have an idea about the disease. Apart from familiar syndromes, there are two diagnostic theories, Kraeplin’s and Freud’s, about paranoia which is common in psychosis, both known to be erroneous. All this, and a new theory of paranoia as the root of all psychosis is found in Yehuda Fried and Joseph Agassi, Paranoia: A Study in Diagnosis, Boston Studies in the Philosophy of Science, vol. 50, 1976, that is assiduously ignored even though Prof. Fried was a renown psychiatrist.
Joseph Agassi
Herzliya 46745 ISRAEL
WebPage: www.tau.ac.il/~agass/
Re: A new way to fix a broken heart? (July 28): I am aware of a traditional practice in this part of the country where a concoction consisting of heart and lungs [of young goats] and some cardiac function improving herbs are extracted in alcohol and given to heart patients to improve cardiac functions particularly after heart attacks--so I cannot subscribe to the claim that this is a first of its kind, though that may be true for the formal sector doctors, and in our hospitals. But if you take traditional practices over cebturies and millenia, this is not true.
Sureshkumar S., Scientist and Adviser
NIIST (CSIR)
Trivandrum, India
Re: “Dream therapy” set for a comeback? (July 28): After reading your post on ‘Dream Therapy - set for a comeback’ I felt moved to add my six-penneth.
I am a life-long avid dreamer. (And there is a reason why some people are and others not) Until my meeting with a dream-psychologist in 1991, who suggested that I could work with my dreams, I had regular nightmares, some recurring. With just the knowledge that my dreams may hold useful information, from which I could learn the nature of my unconscious mind and emotional health, my nightmares ceased. I kept a dream journal for many years after that. I came to understand that my nightmares were replaying my emotional fears, and when I understood what they were, and worked on alleviating those fears, the nightmares were no longer needed.
I then started lucid dreaming and having out-of-body experiences. At first, they were fairly anxiety- laden, (it takes practice) but in time they became more informative and relaxed. This led me to the understanding that my ‘consciousness’ was separate from my unconscious reactions. My dreams became conscious. I could ask a question and receive an answer in the morning, which proved helpful and elucidating. I can look into the future and have had more than just a few experiences of dreaming of a place, in detail, and colour, and then walk into that exact scene some weeks or months later.
I will now tell you something that may break your interest in what I have just written, or not, because it is fairly unconventional.
I believe that the mind does not reside in the body. I believe that the mind is a ‘free-form consciousness’ that uses the brain as a processor to supply images, sounds, and others senses to which the physical body can relate, for the purpose of down-loading information which is not physical, which we may call ‘understanding’. I believe that the language of the free form consciousness is numerical, geometric and scientific, and symbolic, ie it uses what we know to describe what we don’t know.
For every single thing in existence, there is another expression or meaning of that thing, which is not physical. I also believe that during my out-of-body experiences I have learned knowledge and gained wisdom, which I have not learned from studies in my physical life and I believe that this information is relevant to the understanding of the human condition, the relationship of the human to the natural world of our planet, and beyond, to the solar system and the galaxy and the outer universe(s).
I can dream for other people. I can ‘see’ things that are physically invisible. I can dream while awake, otherwise known as meditation, being psychic, clairvoyant, visionary, having seership, or seeing with the third eye. All these practices have been know for millennia, and it is a study of mine to understand why those who experience it, know it and believe it to be true and understand its worth; and those who can’t do it, do not. There is one simple answer. The human needs to have attained a certain level of evolution to be able to do it. (I also know that some people do it badly, do it for the wrong reason, and abuse it)
As for the condition of the psychotic, schizophrenic, or mentally deranged, I believe that these people have this ability, while their level of evolution is not yet able to direct it positively. There are manifestations of the whole spectrum of the human belief system, emotional state, and level of knowledge, and degree of conscious evolution. Drug-induced psychosis can open up the free-form consciousness in a state of fear. In these circumstances, their experience will be extremely frightening.
There is one other aspect. the free-form consciousness can run all the time, 24 hours a day. The waking state consciousness has physical frames of reference, within which the mind experience can be contained. The dream state has no such frame of reference. The psychotic etc has this dream state
PS I am not and never have been psychotic, nor suffer from any mental disorder. I have had an emotional breakdown, following a prolonged period of grief. I have had many experiences in an altered state of mind under controlled conditions, without the use of any plant or drug, for the purpose of study. I used cannabis ‘grass’, ie the plant form, for a short period, just to experience it, but have not used any other drug.
Re: %#$!? Swearing may actually reduce pain (July 12): The article does not suggest that the opposite was tried -- neutral language first, swearing later. It may be that the second time you put your hand in ice-water, it is harder to bear than the first time. Was there a control, or is this a joke?
N. Pyle
Daisy OK
Re: Particle smasher may reveal extra dimensions (Feb. 1, 2008): I found that the Boltzmann constant times the charge of the electron is equal to the Planck constant under light speed: k·q = h
Re: Poop balls reveal secrets of lost world (July 19): Rest assured the dung beetle is still a hero on our farm on the Southern Tablelands of NSW, Australia. It cleans up thousands of tonnes of cattle dung every year and helps control blowfly populations to such an extent that we don’t have any flyblown sheep. It’s one of the biggest assets we have.
Re: Reflection is key to jewel beetle colors, scientists say (July 24): This sounds like the car paint we call “Chameleon” here in New Zealand. It’s been around for at least 8 years. It’s very expensive (something like $1,000
Re: Reflection is key to jewel beetle colors, scientists say (July 24): I have a huge interest in the area of biomimetic coloration and have a joint grant with Drexel University investigating such structures. However, despite being included in Nature, this work is not new or ground breaking. Vakusic (Univ of Exeter), Schauer (Drexel University), Zi (Fudan University), Parker (Oxford) and of course the researcher whose work was published, Srinivasarao (NC State) have all published great works in this area. I do not wish to discredit this work. The data on this particular beetle is new, but it is nothing which hasn’t been known for a number of years, in fact Srinivasarao wrote a great article in 1999 on biomimetic coloration!
Re: Monkeys live longer after eating lighter: study (July 9): So restricting the calorific intake of monkeys by 30% provides some of them with longer life-spans. Was this knowledge worth incarcerating intelligent and sentient creatures for decades, and keeping half of them permanently hungry? And aside from the ethical problems, what about the scientific merit and usefulness of the conclusions? Studies using human subjects - the real species of interest - have already been done. So what can monkey studies add to these? And how many people will use this knowledge and willingly go hungry to live a little longer anyway? This is bad science, cruel science and wasteful science. The funders and publishers of this ‘research’ should be as ashamed of themselves as those who conducted it.
Jarrod Bailey, Ph.D.
Re: Scientists look to bat caves for “fountains of youth” (July 1): In “Scientists look to bat caves for ‘fountains of youth’“ Gerald Weismann either took extreme metaphoric license with his taxonomy or had a dolt-out-of-the-blue brain cramp when he uttered, “since bats are rodents with wings. ”
“Maybe Juan Ponce De León wasn’t too far off the mark when he searched Florida for the Fountain of Youth,” said Gerald Weissmann, editor-in-chief of the journal. “As it turns out, one of these bat species lives out its long life in Florida. Since bats are rodents with wings, this chemical clue as to why bats beat out mice in the aging game should point scientists to the source of this elusive fountain. ”
Bats belong to the mammalian order Chiroptera, mice and other rodents belong to order Rodentia.
